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firearms now allowed

Unread postby ralphl on Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:55 am

The national parks are now allowing holders of concealed firearms carry permits to carry weapons inside the parks. This has stirred a very lively debate on the NATCOA forum. How do you feel about it??
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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby Little Kopit on Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:24 am

Which national parks????

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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby Filthy Beast on Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:46 am

As I understand, unless they have changed it, you can carry with a concealed carry permit, in any national park as long as the state it is in allows concealed carry in state parks.
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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby Limey on Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:44 pm

Hopefully they'll allow the deer, elk and moose to carry them too! :mrgreen:
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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby Little Kopit on Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:20 pm

Limey, agree with you.

But, hey, how about saying:

Do you mean US national parks

or Canada's national parks????

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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby ralphl on Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:38 pm

Here is the press release I received just a few days ago. I will be able to protect myself and my loved ones if need be. Some common sense from our (US) Government - finally.



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CCRKBA HAILS INTERIOR DEPT. RULING ON CONCEALED CARRY IN NATIONAL PARKS
BELLEVUE, WA – Today’s announcement that the Interior Department has amended its rules and will henceforth allow licensed concealed carry in national parks was hailed as a victory for the Second Amendment by the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

“No longer will American citizens be required to leave their right of self-defense at the gates of a national park,” said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “This common-sense change in regulations reflects not only changes in the laws of 48 states, but more importantly the Supreme Court’s ruling in June that upheld the individual right to keep and bear arms that is protected by the Second Amendment.”

Under the rule change, individuals may carry concealed handguns in national parks and wildlife refuges only if they are licensed to carry under the laws of the state in which the park or refuge is located. This new rule does not allow the illegal carrying of any firearm, nor will it allow hunting, target practice or poaching.

“We are delighted that the Interior Department has taken this step,” Gottlieb stated. “This was never an issue of opening parks to hunting or recreational shooting, and the extremist opponents of this measure know it. This has always been about personal protection in areas where law enforcement may be hours away, or not available at all, in an emergency.

“As with the adoption of concealed carry laws in dozens of states over the past several years,” he added, “we are confident that passage of time will prove that all the alarmist rhetoric about poaching and increase danger to families and especially children was deliberately misleading.

“With the nation facing drastic budget cuts,” Gottlieb said, “this rule change comes at the right moment. It recognizes the inability of park officials to provide adequate law enforcement services, particularly in the back country. We are confident that passage of time will prove that this rule change, like the adoption of sensible concealed carry laws in dozens of states over the past 20 years, improves public safety and deters criminal behavior.”
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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby Frank Henn on Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:50 pm

I wish I had a nickle for every pistol and shot gun being transported in a RV or the TV I think I could retire a rich man
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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby skipnchar on Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:17 pm

It's probably for the best since as Frank says, so many folks have been doing it illegally already. Everybody knows it's one of those "don't ask / don't tell" items. I doubt if it'll make rangers job MUCH more dangerous than it already is but may put wildlife in somewhat more danger. Having a little "protection" strapped to your side makes it a lot less important to practice good camping procedures that, for the most part, make the NEED for fire arms unnecessary.

Just like with vehicles, sometimes the logical thing to do isn't necessarily the BEST thing to do. We keep making our vehicles and our roads safer and safer thus deemphasizing the need for safe (and skillful) driving. If every vehicle on the road had a big bag of explosives on the front bumper it would do a lot MORE to make our highways safe. Kind of put the emphasis back where it belongs, with the driver.
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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby catmom on Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:05 pm

If every vehicle on the road had a big bag of explosives on the front bumper it would do a lot MORE to make our highways safe. Kind of put the emphasis back where it belongs, with the driver.
Hmmm - interesting scenario! :roll:
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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby Frank Henn on Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:05 pm

But Skip this would make everyone responsible for their own actions... This is not PC any more :) :)
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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby mountainman on Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:29 am

Wow, I have been in a lot of National Parks and trekked many miles of trail within the parks and have never thought I could have more fun with a firearm strapped to my side. In fact I'm always looking for ways to get rid of weight.
I've encountered beer and mountain lions and still never felt I would be safer with a pistol. Now carrying bear spray is a totally different story. I do subscribe to that procedure.
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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby Limey on Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:27 pm

mountainman wrote:I've encountered beer and mountain lions and still never felt I would be safer with a pistol.


So.. who's supplying beer to the Mountain Lions??


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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby mountainman on Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:34 pm

Beer is for the horses!!
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Re: firearms now allowed

Unread postby cwit on Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:41 pm

You caught that Limey. :D That's my stunt mixing up letters. ;)
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