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Unread postby skipnchar on Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:30 pm

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Re: F-250

Unread postby fla-gypsy on Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:27 pm

Ok you have me wondering since you did not add any text. Is it yours?
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Re: F-250

Unread postby Clyder on Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:27 pm

Nice looking truck but my thoughts were the same as fla-gypsy's with the lack of text. Tell us about it.
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Re: F-250

Unread postby ButteBumBob on Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:54 pm

Nice truck........ Congratulations !!!!!!!
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Re: F-250

Unread postby Terry on Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:17 pm

Ain't changed the sig yet. Good lookin truck.
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Re: F-250

Unread postby shum on Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:38 pm

Ah, the smell of diesel :D
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Re: F-250

Unread postby skipnchar on Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:56 pm

Sorry folks, I got distracted and never got back to finish the post. Yes I broke down and added a diesel to the stable. I'm now a three truck family (gotta start thinning the heard soon). I didn't mean to do it but got a deal I just couldn't resist and the truck is PERFECT. AS soon as the weather settles down enough I'll hitch up the old Rockwood and see how it tows. I just ordered a topper for it today but won't be in for a couple of weeks. Seems that local dealers only stock them for smaller trucks. Will be putting an ARE fiberglass Shell with a Bed Rug under it.

From what I've determined so far is that the diesel is a great highway machine but not my idea of an every day driver. Guess I'll just turn the F-150 into a bread hauler ;)
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Re: F-250

Unread postby Big Rig Guy on Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:17 am

That'll pull your Rockwood just fine, nice truck, does not look like a 4 wheel drive, real nice. Hard to get a regular 3/4 ton diesel up here without the 4 wheel. I prefer the two wheel myself.
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Re: F-250

Unread postby pwall on Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:55 pm

You'll like the diesel for towing. :)
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Re: F-250

Unread postby skipnchar on Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:23 pm

pwall wrote:You'll like the diesel for towing. :)

I'm pretty sure I will and I can't wait to find out. Weather here has been just "nuts". Big storm over the weekend with Ice, sleet and LOTS of snow on Saturday and Sunday I saw one of my neighbors out mowing his lawn.
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Re: F-250

Unread postby Limey on Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:12 am

Hooray for Skip - another one to 'feel the force"!
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Re: F-250

Unread postby skipnchar on Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:28 pm

Finally got the trailer hitched up to the F-250 today so I thought I'd post a kind of REPORT on the differences between it and the old F-150 HD.

First of all the power difference is fairly significant. Headed west out of town through the flint hills (about as close to mountains as you'll find in Kansas). There are some 5% grades lasting over a mile on I-70 and the diesel climbed them effortlessly in OD as expected. With the 5.4 engine it would first break the TC loose then gear down to 3rd gear on the longer of these hills but would still maintain speed on cruise.

Handling - No real noticeable difference between the two trucks. Pretty much the same for braking as both have a good brake controller so stopping was the same in both.

Ride Quality - F-150 actually has a more comfortable ride with the trailer attached. I think the reason for this is that the receiver on the F-150 brings the stinger closer to the truck than on the 250. Result is that the F-250 has a bouncier ride while towing. I may be able to tweak the hitch-head a little bit and improve the ride some.

Fuel mileage - Too early to tell much about towing mileage as I only went about 30 miles but the diesel does get slightly better mileage than the 5.4 on the highway when NOT towing. With the extra power of the diesel I have to assume (at this point) that it will do a LOT better with the trailer attached. It's POSSIBLE that it won't be as dramatic as I'm expecting because I may find myself towing faster because it's easier. The 150 has 4.10 gearing vs 3.73 on the diesel which may also be a mileage factor.

Payload capacity - The f-150 has to get the nod on this one. 3,050 lb . payload for it and that's about the same as the F-250 but when you factor in the diesel engine you'd need to subtract at LEAST 500 lb. of extra weight being carried by the F-250 and coming off of the payload capacity. Still should leave me plenty for my 1,200 lb. tongue weight and approximately 1,200 lb. of gear, topper and DW and me.

Reliability - I HOPE the diesel proves to be as reliable as the old 5.4 but it certainly can't be any BETTER. Been towing with the 5.4 since 2004 and have logged over 80,000 towing miles (120,000 total miles) with only one repair ever needed. Had to replace a cracked exhaust manifold at 100,000 miles. Only other items that COULD be classified as 'repairs' were new brake pads (at 85,000 miles) and new tires (3 sets). Also had a battery fail last fall and had to replace it while on a trip. I don't consider any of those to be repair items however. It the F-250 can come CLOSE to matching that I'll be ecstatic.

Main reason for making the change is my love of the high country. The old 5.4 was a great tow under just about every condition imaginable but it didn't like high altitude. The power loss was fairly noticeable at anything over about 8,000 feet. Having the diesel will certainly open up more possibilities for mountain camping.

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Re: F-250

Unread postby mountainman on Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:03 am

Great looking truck Skip. I've been waiting to hear that you had replaced your F150. The diesel will be a great TV and like you say the mountains won't be a problem now.
I would like to have a diesel myself but I've only got 48,000 on my 6.0 and it does a pretty good job in the mountains with my size trailer.
Hope to see you out this way.
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Re: F-250

Unread postby graywolf67 on Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:59 pm

Welcome to the diesel mafia Skip :mrgreen: I joined earlier this year, I have the 6.4l and love it. I also had a F150 but not a HD and I don't notice actually any difference in towing between the 2 types. I am also waiting for my mountain trip later in the year to really see the difference in the higher altitudes. With MPG the diesel is better by about 2 mpg but I didn't buy either for fuel economy but the power :mrgreen: Good luck with the truck.
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Re: F-250

Unread postby mountainman on Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:33 pm

Skip: "I'm pretty sure I will and I can't wait to find out. Weather here has been just "nuts". Big storm over the weekend with Ice, sleet and LOTS of snow on Saturday and Sunday I saw one of my neighbors out mowing his lawn".

I hate to tell you this Skip but we are sending you another reminder of winter. We are suppose to be getting the welcome by late evening tonight so figuring 20-25 mph you should have it about 20 hours later. Don't hook up yet!
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Re: F-250

Unread postby Clyder on Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:35 pm

Several posts up you stated that you ordered an ARE fiberglass topper. I've got an ARE fiberglass topper on my truck. You're going to like it. They are custom made to fit the make and model or your truck so they are a perfect fit and designed with style to match the style of the truck. The color and finish also matches that of the truck. I really like mine.
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Re: F-250

Unread postby aja72 on Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:59 am

Nice Truck.
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Re: F-250

Unread postby PrivatePilot on Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:20 pm

Looks good skip, welcome to the oil burners club.

For towing, nothing beats it. Well, during the diesel fuel price surge of 2008 I questioned that on a few occasions, but prices aside (which have thankfully retreated) from a functionality standpoint, diesel is primo.
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