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f 150 4.6

Unread postby Zinger on Tue May 20, 2008 6:20 pm

Is anyone towing with an F150 w/4.6 my 2005 is rated at 6100# My trailer is 5500 empty we dont over do so i dont think we are over 6100# the problem is hills. I would love to get another TV but $$$$$$ dont grow on trees around here any Ideas for mods that will make a difference I have considered gear change.
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Re: f 150 4.6

Unread postby MCBOWERS on Tue May 20, 2008 8:16 pm

Zinger wrote: my 2005 is rated at 6100# My trailer is 5500 empty we dont over do so i dont think we are over 6100# .



It can't be much fun going camping w/ a empty TT.Have u ever weighed it or are u guessing??????I'd be looking for that money tree !JMO.


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Re: f 150 4.6

Unread postby jp rver on Tue May 20, 2008 11:10 pm

Zinger wrote:Is anyone towing with an F150 w/4.6 my 2005 is rated at 6100# My trailer is 5500 empty we dont over do so i dont think we are over 6100# the problem is hills. I would love to get another TV but $$$$$$ dont grow on trees around here any Ideas for mods that will make a difference I have considered gear change.


I obviously don't know your personal family situation, but if your trailer is 5500 lbs empty, I would be surprised if you are towing less than 6500lbs. My trailer is rated at 4200lbs empty, and I weighed in last year truck and trailer right at 12000lbs fully loaded. I know my truck doesn't weigh much over 5000 lbs, so that was 7000 lbs of gear and camping trailer. Of course some of that weight was in the bed of the truck with firewood, and bikes and such, but I bet the trailer weighed over 6000 lbs easily. So I was probably 2000lbs over my "empty" weight in the trailer.
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Re: f 150 4.6

Unread postby The Wood Tinker on Tue May 20, 2008 11:48 pm

Zinger,
What is the rear end you have now?
Man that is way close to overload JMHO
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Re: f 150 4.6

Unread postby Filthy Beast on Wed May 21, 2008 9:17 am

Personally, I have changed the exhaust to a flowmaster system, added a K&N cold air kit and use a superchips programmer for the computer. I also just changed the stock Mass Air Flow sensor to a Granatelli but they need to change the programming in it as it is running a little lean. We live in New Mexico and drive through the mountains quite often and it just makes the truck a little more drivable.
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Re: f 150 4.6

Unread postby Zinger on Wed May 21, 2008 6:33 pm

jp rver wrote:
Zinger wrote:Is anyone towing with an F150 w/4.6 my 2005 is rated at 6100# My trailer is 5500 empty we dont over do so i dont think we are over 6100# the problem is hills. I would love to get another TV but $$$$$$ dont grow on trees around here any Ideas for mods that will make a difference I have considered gear change.


I obviously don't know your personal family situation, but if your trailer is 5500 lbs empty, I would be surprised if you are towing less than 6500lbs. My trailer is rated at 4200lbs empty, and I weighed in last year truck and trailer right at 12000lbs fully loaded. I know my truck doesn't weigh much over 5000 lbs, so that was 7000 lbs of gear and camping trailer. Of course some of that weight was in the bed of the truck with firewood, and bikes and such, but I bet the trailer weighed over 6000 lbs easily. So I was probably 2000lbs over my "empty" weight in the trailer.


gears are 3.55 we only weekend and the CG is about 15 miles from home so im not extremly concerned but I tink in the future I will upgrade trucks that was the plan when we bought the new TT I am itchy to get a new TV now but DW reminds me we have to pay for it.
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Re: f 150 4.6

Unread postby Terry on Wed May 21, 2008 8:56 pm

jp rver wrote:
Zinger wrote:Is anyone towing with an F150 w/4.6 my 2005 is rated at 6100# My trailer is 5500 empty we dont over do so i dont think we are over 6100# the problem is hills. I would love to get another TV but $$$$$$ dont grow on trees around here any Ideas for mods that will make a difference I have considered gear change.


I obviously don't know your personal family situation, but if your trailer is 5500 lbs empty, I would be surprised if you are towing less than 6500lbs. My trailer is rated at 4200lbs empty, and I weighed in last year truck and trailer right at 12000lbs fully loaded. I know my truck doesn't weigh much over 5000 lbs, so that was 7000 lbs of gear and camping trailer. Of course some of that weight was in the bed of the truck with firewood, and bikes and such, but I bet the trailer weighed over 6000 lbs easily. So I was probably 2000lbs over my "empty" weight in the trailer.


What you carrying in that TT, that comes up to 2000lbs? And where do you put it all? Mine is 4975 dry, and 5600lbs loaded ready to camp. And I don't have room for anything else. I couldn't put that much weight in our's if I tried. Unless of course. Shay did thta Lucy thing, and started collecting rocks.
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Re: f 150 4.6

Unread postby jp rver on Wed May 21, 2008 9:10 pm

Terry wrote:
jp rver wrote:
Zinger wrote:Is anyone towing with an F150 w/4.6 my 2005 is rated at 6100# My trailer is 5500 empty we dont over do so i dont think we are over 6100# the problem is hills. I would love to get another TV but $$$$$$ dont grow on trees around here any Ideas for mods that will make a difference I have considered gear change.


I obviously don't know your personal family situation, but if your trailer is 5500 lbs empty, I would be surprised if you are towing less than 6500lbs. My trailer is rated at 4200lbs empty, and I weighed in last year truck and trailer right at 12000lbs fully loaded. I know my truck doesn't weigh much over 5000 lbs, so that was 7000 lbs of gear and camping trailer. Of course some of that weight was in the bed of the truck with firewood, and bikes and such, but I bet the trailer weighed over 6000 lbs easily. So I was probably 2000lbs over my "empty" weight in the trailer.


What you carrying in that TT, that comes up to 2000lbs? And where do you put it all? Mine is 4975 dry, and 5600lbs loaded ready to camp. And I don't have room for anything else. I couldn't put that much weight in our's if I tried. Unless of course. Shay did thta Lucy thing, and started collecting rocks.


Dry weight rating on a trailer is usually no water, no gas, no options like A/C, awning etc. So it is not that difficult to quickly be over 2000 lbs heavier than the "Dry" weight rating of a trailer.

My trailer lists a dry weight of 4200 lbs on the sticker. I truly believe that if I would have left the dealer and went straight to the scale when I bought our trailer it would have probably been closer to 5000lbs, maybe more, with the added options like awnings and such. Last summer I scaled out with the truck and trailer at right at 12,000 lbs. That was full water tank, full gas tanks, and firewood in the bed of the truck. Like I said, likely the trailer was close if not over 2000 lbs above the "empty" weight rating. No I don't collect rocks. :mrgreen: That's just clothes, foodstuffs and toys for the kids, although in my opinion the toy box could be cleaned out a bit!
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Re: f 150 4.6

Unread postby Zinger on Wed May 21, 2008 9:16 pm

I guess a scale is the only way to tell
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Re: f 150 4.6

Unread postby The Wood Tinker on Fri May 23, 2008 4:27 pm

Filthy Beast wrote:Personally, I have changed the exhaust to a flowmaster system, added a K&N cold air kit and use a superchips programmer for the computer. I also just changed the stock Mass Air Flow sensor to a Granatelli but they need to change the programming in it as it is running a little lean. We live in New Mexico and drive through the mountains quite often and it just makes the truck a little more drivable.


I did the same thing to my F150 5.4L and you CAN tell the difference. 8-)
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